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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:56 am 
I've scanned a PDF of this file in German and English if anyone wants a copy.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:30 pm 
Yes please. I have a Pionier 520Z so if That one is available I would love to have a copy. The 450 assembly should be similar. I hope. other wise I am kind of stuck.
Thanks, George Lathrop


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:27 am 
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Thanks, Christov. I'll put a copy of this on the main web site... hopefully by Winter... ;-)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:40 pm 
You can email me the pdf at george@awarenessworkshop.org
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:46 am 
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Hello Chris,

Well I lucked into an old Pionier 520Z with a sail set for a song. Well, it is missing a few things, most notably the hull and all the wing-nuts and a few ferrules, but I'm working on that! Other than that it look sin unused condition - the sail for sure have never been flown.

I put it together without instructions, but would really like to see the instructions that came with your 450. I tried the link on your original post, but although things churn away, cannot see the file on my laptop. Was wondering if you would be so kind as to send the pdf to me directly?

BTW, I have a few pictures of this kayak on Flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18438972@N ... otostream/

Thanks,

Barry

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 8:49 am 
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Link for the instructions seems to work fine now. Chalk the previous problem up to user error on my part. Would like to talk to you some time regarding assembly of Pioniers as I have a few questions.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:03 pm 
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Barry, that's a really neat looking boat. Love the sail rig(s).

Pretty nice sewing machine too!

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Thanks! I bought that Pfaff a few years ago to work on the boats ... nice machine and built like a tank. Now I have access to an old "industrial" Pfaff that my Father used in his orthopedic shop years ago (wish I had one of the big sewing machines he had ... Singers IIRC).

Any rate, I'm still searching for a supplier for a replacement skin and then I'll be off to Lake Erie to try to sail that beast. 6.3 m^2 of sail on a boat without sponsons ... think I'll need amas ... :D

Here is a link to photos of old Pioniers. Scroll down to the bottom to see some pix of 520-Zs under sail with jib, mainsail and a mizzen - a proper little yacht!

http://www.faltbootbasteln.de/fbb-pioni ... boote.html

Barry

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:57 am 
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I am glad you were able to make use of the instructions I posted back in 2009. Much longer ago than I'd thought.

Barry, those are beautiful kayaks. Man, I love that orange deck - not because I'm a UT fan, but because that's a great color.


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