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 Post subject: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:15 pm 
faltbootemeister

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I've been looking for a boat for an Alaska trip, and people have been very helpful. However, it now seems that because of odd numbers in the party I may have to paddle alone and not in a tandem. I don't have single boat. But I could look for one (a used one certainly). Any suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:06 pm 
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Hard to beat a Long Haul Mark-I for ruggedness, repairability, and reliability. If I was paddling Alaska that's what I'd take from my fleet.

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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:00 pm 
faltbootemeister

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What about a Klepper Aerius 1? A Folbot Cooper?


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:25 pm 
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I'd go for the smallest, lightest folding kayak you can get that will carry the load you need (I'm assuming there may be some portage involved). Have you considered the Packboats xt15? It's the one the Quest 155 replaced.

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Non-folders: Cape Falcon F1. Beth sailing canoe, 2014 Hobie Adventure Island


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:53 am 
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If I was covering open water, surf landings and long distance, I would take my 3 piece Nordkapp.

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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:33 am 
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Is this coastal or river-running? We seem to be assuming coastal...

What are the others paddling? You need something that can keep up.

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~'91 Klepper A2 w/ BSD schooner rig.
'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
Non-folding: Early '90s Old Town Canoe.
Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift (prototype), as well as an '84 Hobie 16.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:45 am 
faltbootemeister

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Sorry, it's river running. Mostly flat water, a little class II rapids, but not much. The Noatak.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:18 pm 
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How about a Pakboats canoe?

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~'91 Klepper A2 w/ BSD schooner rig.
'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
Non-folding: Early '90s Old Town Canoe.
Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift (prototype), as well as an '84 Hobie 16.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:38 pm 
faltbootemeister

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Good suggestion. In fact, I just acquired a used Pakcanoe 165 just for this trip (and beyond). When I learned the the numbers meant that I might need to paddle a single boat, I started worrying. But I talked to PakBoats today and was told that the 165, because it's narrower than the other tandem boats, can also be paddled as a single, and that many people do. Meanwhile, I think I've convinced my daughter, who is 19, to join the trip. So the problem may be solved in the best way possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:41 am 
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I think you made a good purchase. I saw the boat advertised and really wanted it, but can't afford it right now. Glad that it will be used well :-).

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~'91 Klepper A2 w/ BSD schooner rig.
'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
Non-folding: Early '90s Old Town Canoe.
Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift (prototype), as well as an '84 Hobie 16.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:11 pm 
faltbootemeister

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It was in worse condition than advertised: the listing was misleading in a number of ways. And there's not much I can do. Still, I couldn't have afforded a new one.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:23 am 
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I'm very sorry to hear that. I've been burned on eBay at a similar price-point-- it still rankles. The seller just changes their name once their seller rating/feedback becomes bad enough.

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Chris T.
~'91 Klepper A2 w/ BSD schooner rig.
'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
Non-folding: Early '90s Old Town Canoe.
Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift (prototype), as well as an '84 Hobie 16.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:26 pm 
faltbootemeister

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I don't think I was burned. If I had bought the boat from a dealer, such as PakBoat, I might have paid the same amount. (I bought the boat for about 2/3 of the asking price.) And Mike at PakBoat thought I got a good deal. Things like bent tubing and patched hulls are part of the game with PakBoats and, it seems, nothing really to worry about. Still, I had pitched my offer according to the condition of the boat as it was advertised, which was deceptive, and that's what rankles. There were some suspicious things about the ad, and I should have been more careful going in, or at least questioned the seller more rigorously. I guess there's always a risk in trying to do things on the cheap.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:45 pm 
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PVC is easy to patch (far easier that Hypalon!). And, in the worst case, Pakboats is able to remanufacture any parts for their boats in their New Hampshire facility. Mike is Alv's stepson and knows the boats very well.

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Chris T.
~'91 Klepper A2 w/ BSD schooner rig.
'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
Non-folding: Early '90s Old Town Canoe.
Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift (prototype), as well as an '84 Hobie 16.


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 Post subject: Re: Good single boat?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:58 pm 
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
Sorry to hear that you got hornswoggled (or is it bamboozled?). I bought my first folder, a Feathercraft K-Light, on evil bay. The photo that appeared with the ad supposedly represented a 2003 boat but what I actually received was a 1997 boat with a sewn cordura deck that had long since lost its water repellency. Other than that, the boat was in excellent condition though a bit overpriced for a hull of that vintage and I enjoyed two years of paddling and sold it easily for only a couple of hundred less than what I paid for it. Not such a bad experience. Good luck with your boat.


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