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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:05 am 
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Hy! I've found a really cheap and good condition, kolibry 3 folding kayak.
I'm a beginner, had a few laps with different types of sit on top kayaks (sea and lakes ).
I would like to know how it handels, how stable is it and of it has hidden fouls.
It would be used for touring lakes, deep rivers and sea.
Thank you! :)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:32 pm 
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I don't believe the East German Kolibri has been made since the 1960s or possibly the 70s, so I'd be very cautious about hull condition. I believe they used a rubber hull, and those only last 10-20 years before they start to degrade, and once they start to crack, they're pretty much on their last legs. Any replacement parts would probably have to be made by you, too. In short, unless you can buy it very cheaply, or you like repairing and restoring kayaks, I'd give it as pass.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:34 pm 
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Looks like Michael posted while I was typing, but we are in complete agreement:

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This is a lot of kayak for a single. Will you be alone or double? It will make a great sailor if you have that in your future. The kayak is very stable, it is similar to the Klepper A2. It is heavy and has a wide beam, you would almost have to try to capsize it. Unless you are DLee :-) who enjoys an occasional unscheduled swim.

Now...BE CAREFUL. The frames will last forever if there is no rot. But the skin is where the value is, and a boat this old needs to be carefully scrutinized by someone familiar with the old rubber and hypalon hulls. If the skin is not in very good shape, and that means no cracks, peeling, flaking, or delamination and if the deck has good integrity with the hull (no splitting or rotted threads), then no price is a good price. Plenty of folks have bought kayaks thinking "oh, I can fix that". Don't go there. It is the very rare craftsman who can repair or replace one of these skins.

Best of luck, if you take closeup pics of the hull then folks on the forum might offer you some advice.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:03 pm 
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Thanks for the answers. The advices will come in handy. :) I'm planning to use it in tandem with my wife (I forgot to mention it )
I'm interested in this model because I found 2 kayaks at a very low price and full kit (rudder, sail, etc.). Anyway I will buy it only if I will be what I'm waiting for. On one of them I even have the chance to take it for a test run.
I'll be back in a few days with photos and eventually questions. :)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:08 pm 
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And a small update: the skin is made from rubber coated cotton cloth.


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