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Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:55 pm
by DasBlauwal4
I had a minute this weekend and feeling impatient with the cold weather I decided to sketch out some of the sailing parts that I have been sourcing. I haven't had a moment to see how everything fits so I decided to set up the boat in the kids playroom while the wife was out.

My sister recently fractured her leg which gave me the idea to source a used set of crutches for my outrigger build. They should be strong enough, they're crutches! and all the button fasteners are included. All you need to do is drill out the extension on the other side and source out the button clip from the unused extension tube! I found my set on craigslist for $5 bucks!

I'm waiting for the seaMark to arrive so I can fabricate some AMA's


Check it out!,

Matt


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Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:14 pm
by john allsop
Every thing looks excellent at a rock bottom price.

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:13 pm
by DLee
That's a really interesting idea Matt. Check out the Folbot pontoons, they would be an easy connection to this rig.

Did you give any thought to turning the crutches around?

My wife sprained her ankle a weekend or two ago and fortunately she had a speedy recovery. So there's also a pair of brand new crutches in our basement now... hmmm. I would be tempted to cut the crutches below the handle, and mount that wishbone on the board and have the single tube run out... But I haven't actually looked at the crutches yet... Brilliant idea though Matt.

Hey I like the Long Haul sailing seat and tiller. Mark's wooden handle looks much friendlier than Klepper's square aluminum tube. But hey, it works. I'll be anxious to hear your thoughts on the sailing seat.

What is that downward facing hook on your mast?

d

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:46 pm
by john allsop
Dennis i hope Matt dosn,t mind me chipping in. The downward facing hook, ( i call it the funny hook) is where the sail boom attaches to the old style mast, this was before they came up with the fork. Here is a photo of it in use on my Yukon, the boom is wood and home made but the Klepper one in old sail outfits is used in the same way.

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:58 am
by DLee
Thanks John, I should have guessed that. Do you need to keep tension on the sail to keep it hooked up?

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:10 am
by DasBlauwal4
Dennis, John, thanks for the comments. I did think of using the crutches flipped the other way but it was so simple to connect the adjuster tube by drilling through and salvaging the button pusher, it's also adjustable.

I decided to learn how to sew on this project, and after a very steep learning curve i think i have my wife's great aunt's 1962 model white machine working.

I ordered some v69 thread and proper needles from sailrite.com they also carry a good 18oz PVC vinyl i will use to make the bladders. These images are what i have done so far. I used a tent pole type fiberglass connector to string through the pole pockets that I sewn in the center. The rods are a thriftstore find used for aligning your golf putt.

I bought some zippers at the thread shop and worked them in, i stole that idea from Careen's outriggers. I will sew it all inside out then pull it right side out using the zipper.

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Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:26 pm
by john allsop
Looks very good indeed. Here is how the Russians have made their outrigger set up. The color is a bit off.

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:21 pm
by DLee
Hey John, that's amazing. That things not going anywhere... where did you find that?

d

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:34 pm
by john allsop
Dennis. They were sold by Kero boats in Richmond Hill Toronto. He sells Russian and Pak folders. These outriggers are by Taimen. I think the lee board should be on the forward cross support tube, or maybe one on each. Some of the Russian folders now have ply cross pieces and aluminium longerons and floor pieces.. These can be seen on the kero web site, but no outriggers are there. He sent me photos of the outfit. He takes the folders he sells to places, displays them and lets people try out the boats.

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:37 am
by DLee
Interesting, I'm surprised Nirus doesn't make a single. I have never heard of them before. Did a quick search for Taimen and didn't find anything related to those outriggers. I agree that the lee board should be forward - closer to the center of effort. Those outriggers are serious overkill, but they are cool looking.

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:00 pm
by john allsop
Dennis, If i remember correct on http://www.out-trade.de. They had photos of the Ladoga sailing with pontoons something like these Taimen ones but there was only one arm, and i think out-trade sold a kit complete with a sail. When i looked on their site there was a lot to look at.

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:15 am
by DLee
That is an interesting site. Thanks for reminding me of it. I couldn't find the outriggers there, but I did look at the Trident Lagoda(SP?), I like that single. A nice big open cockpit if you want or closed in. Seating is a little to the rear as well and they claim it can be rigged for sailing... so many interesting boats. So little $$$ to spend on them... ha.

d

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:32 pm
by DasBlauwal4
I finally have a minute to share some images of my aluminum crutch outrigger project and what I have accomplished thus far.

This is by no means a tried and tested outrigger system so build at your own risk.

The photos linked are the result of sewing the seamark inside-out and pulling through a sewn in sports zipper that I included in my design. I then used sailrite.com's product "shelterrite" an 18oz PVC vinyl material as the basis for the inflatable pontoons. I have found that the seamark and Shelter rite are very good quality materials and highly recommend them. I stuffed the seamark with the shelterrite and inflated. H66 was used to glue the shelter rite material together, it is very tough stuff and worked out well as a premium adhesive for gluing PVC vinyls together.

I have to give inspiration credit to mattja99's home made outrigger post on this website and to his referenced yostwerks website for the homemade techniques.

Sailrite.com was a pleasant surprise to me for sailing materials and info. if I ever need to sew a sail that's where i will start looking, cool website with lots of helpful videos and staff also.



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Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:39 pm
by gbellware
Thanks for the post, looks very creative.
But it looks like you are guilty of a serious encroachment violation. Did you have to bribe your kids to let you commandeer their playroom :roll:

g

Re: Home made AKA for $5 bucks and my sailing parts.

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:55 pm
by DLee
boy if a boat showed up in my play space when I was a kid, I woulda been all over it!

Matt, that's looking excellent! I am totally going to check out that site and possibly make some air bladders for my T9. Thanks for that.

I have to admit I am still not a huge fan of the crutches... I think it has something to do with not wanting to mix medical aids with my toys... Soooo, I wanted to point out that your pontoons are perfectly designed to attach to your old wooden Klepper paddles like you will see in some of the older Careen photos. Just a thought... ha.

What do you think the cost of the pontoons are, not including your labor? I'm guessing you have materials left over as well for future projects?

I look forward to seeing this out on the water. Again, nice work. By the way, nice sewing machine. Is that Heavy Duty? and, AWESOME VAN!

dennis