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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:33 pm 
Hi Brian,
I've been wanting to have a go at one of Tom's designs for a while and hadn't been able to find a UK source for the tubing. I haven't got the space to give it a go at the moment but it seems as though metals4u have just started doing suitable tubing.


It's still maybe a bit expensive but not awful. Tubes are in 1/8th inch increments with 1.2mm wall which I think leaves 0.8mm and should be fine.

Let me know how you get on with things. I will get round to trying it myself one day.

On a sonnet related note... did anyone see the new advanced elements airfusion ()? Looks like a sonnet rip off to me. I'd be interested to see it.

Jon


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:39 am 
Hello,

Tom, did you ever consider if it's possible to use wood instead of alu?

- or use wood stringers joined with short alu or pvc tube sleeves?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:55 pm 
Thanks Jon for the link to metals4u.

Interesting way they offer their tubes are sliding inside each other with neat plastic clamp. With their tubes offered in 2m lengths, then it would be ideal for a just uner 4m design.


Brian


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:36 pm 
Loading gear, sheesh... In multiday trips moving a camp with these narrow folders is mind-boggling. Even without breakfast it takes over one hour from wake-up to launch, split roughly 0.3/0.3/0.4 between packing the bags, carrying everything to water and loading into the boat. Everything has to be packed compact and placed accurately - you can't just throw things in like in wide Klepper-style boats. But Sonnet is a short-trip boat, so there is less stuff to pack and load.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:11 pm 
Brian ( keyhavenpotterer )

I just noticed that 2 pm's I sent you on Jan 10 and Jan 11 regarding UK aluminum tube sourcing are still in my outbox ?

The builder in Scotland responded by saying that he purchased his imperial tubing at a couple different metal fabrication shops in Dundee.
He said he would send me the names of the fabricators, and their prices, but it's been at least a week since I heard from him. I'll assume
he isn't going to respond again. Sorry.....

If you were to import from Germany, I can get you aluminum tube sourcing.

The sleeves for the 6 sponson single are finished, as well as the 3 strongback stations. I'm going to document this build on my website
with detailed instructions and pics. I'll send you the link when I get it established. Send me your email address. Mine's... tom_yost@msn.com

Regards, Tom


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:36 pm 
My apologies Tom. When I check in on the forum, I think having ticked the log me in at each visit, it would do that, but I just noticed after your post that I am not logged in and have now done so.....

Will double check in future.

I am at a loss with my local tubing supplier's quote. Have been very much under the weather this week after catching a serious stomach bug from my son, so will call the supplier next week to see if there was a miss quote of some kind.

Brian

edit: on logging out my browser, Google Chrome, asked if I wanted Chrome to save the password on a narrow top screen popup. having said yes, it now seems to log me in.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:17 pm 
Thanks a lot, Tom; this is good inspiration!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:41 pm 
My son has been looking for an alloy tube supplier for a boat build he has on the go, and he found this UK supplier who lists much better prices. So much lower than before I can hardly believe it.

The price for a 4m length of 3/4" 18 swg is listed as £3.75 plus vat at 17.5%. This makes a huge difference to costs.



Tom, I have a link from some time ago to a piece you posted on making sponsons. If I made my own sponsons that would also save me a huge amount. Would that be OK Tom?

I think with this much lower tube costs, home made sponsons it makes it a much more affordable project for me as a retired person with minimal income.

How is the prototype going?

Brian


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