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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:26 pm 
Since it's supposidly only a matter of time before my bearings drop out again (Yes the mental one too :roll: ), -see earlier post. I'm wondering if sealed bearings wouldn't work better? There has to be a reason the manufacturer didn't put them in originally, whether it's cost saving or internal corrosion. :? If they were sealed hubs like Campangnolo uses, you'd even be able to pump new grease in through a port, thus pushing the old contaminated grease out.

I'm even thinking bronze bushings with plenty of grease (like the old pioneer Conostogas, -only their bushings were iron) would be better.

I'm also thinking a cradle that runs with the longerons would be better as hopefully this would keep the cart from twisting or collapsing.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:12 pm 
Andreas,

On the Northern tool wheels that Alex and I have,
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/ ... 3794_13794 there are actually two cheap bearings per wheel and press fitted into the plastic. Mostly they work well, but as Alex has noted, they rust up quickly. I noted when mine popped out that there is a 3/4" ( approx. I didn't measure it yet ) hole in the wheel hub beyond the bearing seats. I have thought of finding a brass bushing that will fit and have a 1/2" hole for my shaft. That might solve a lot of problems and they could be spray greased with CRC White Lithium Grease or Boshield.

Chris


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:32 pm 
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A bushing that size may be as close as your local hardware store. I'd look for a nylon bushing, actually, and you may be able to find a press-in one at a good sized hardware store.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:11 pm 
Alex, as usual, I'm going with your good suggestions :lol: . 1)The Northern tires are cheap enough, but not so cheap that they would fall apart after a couple of uses. 2) Keep clean and lubricate as you suggest. 3) forget the bushing idea and use these bearings with a smoother polished shaft :wink: .

If I need to replace a wheel later, I think I can afford another. Overall, I am pretty happy with the cart. It packs well in a dry bag and could strap to the deck if I am out for a trip. :D

Chris


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:49 pm 
Saw this cart at REI today. Despite its looks, It was very light and folds up small. With proper wheels.......... :idea:

http://www.rei.com/product/737715?vcat=REI_SEARCH


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:30 am 
<<<<<You'll arrive to something close to what you've made (and closer yet to what I've made). Why bother buying?...>>>>>

Not interested in buying....I am done with carts for a while....just liked this one, or at least the idea of it.

He has an interesting website as well ( the inventor/manufacturer )

http://washburnemarine.com/WMP.asp

Chris


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I use a Klepper cart for my Kahuna as I frequently do long portages. I changed the Klepper wheel/bushing system out for some 7 inch diameter inflatable wheels with bearings that fit the shaft of the Klepper cart perfectly. They are not sealed bearings. After a salt water trip they gradually assume that protective coating of iron oxide. Thing is they are 27 bucks a pair from Northern Tool and you are back in business.


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