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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:47 am 
Does anyone have any recommendations for solar panels to take on longer trips to recharge radios, GPS, etc? Specifically, and obviously, something that will tolerate saltwater well. (It would be nice to mount it on the rear deck so things could recharge while paddling.)

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Taking a page from my backpacking: take a Nikonos II and a bunch of film, instead of a digital camera-- no batteries to worry about!

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Another alternative:


- I have no idea if it works as advertised - but at least it ain't cheap :)


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Here is what i use for charging my AA batteries for the VHF and GPS:

http://www.silva.se/outdoor/products/inst_solar1.htm

Its inexpensive, very small, waterproof and attatches to the rear deck and backpack ecet. Designed to hold 4 AA`s i use only two for charging, but have two Silva units.

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My friend Mark is using this:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/produ ... Efolder_id
=1408474396672503&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443281867&ASSORTMENT
%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1163448757388&assortment=primary
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It is not waterproof but folds down really small when not in use.

On my trips in Barkley Sound, i had the VHF allways on CH 16, you never know....

servus,

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I'm dead wrong in the US on the legal requirement to maintain a watch on Channel 16, and you are absolutely correct. Many thanks for updating the old, crusty ones, here! :lol: :wink: Following is the pertinent language, emphasis added by me; the requirement for recreational vessels to watch 16 apparently arose in 2004, and I missed it. The following is from this site: http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/watch.htm

U.S. recreational vessels not required to carry radios, but if they do, they must be turned on and set to channel 16
Vessels not required to carry a VHF marine radio (e.g. recreational vessels less than 20m length and commercial vessels under 100 GT carrying less than 6 passengers), but which voluntarily carry a radio, must maintain a watch on channel 16 (156.800 MHz) whenever the radio is not being used to communicate. Effective 2004 if a radio is carried, it must be turned on and set to channel 16 whenever the vessel is underway.

Source: FCC 47 CFR 80.310

U.S. vessels required to carry a marine radio
U.S. vessels required to carry a VHF marine radio, such as commercial fishing vessels, must maintain a watch on channel 16 (156.800 MHZ) while underway whenever the radio is not being used for exchanging communications.

Source: FCC 47 CFR 80.148


I know for a fact this requirement is widely ignored.

I do not know if the Canadian marine regs on VHF watch have changed.

Alex? That's your bailiwick.

NB: I copied this post over to the Safety section, so it would get broader exposure.

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I have a flexible 10 watt 12volt solar panel I use to recharge a 7.5ah gel cell, and that it turn powers a small amateur radio (SGS2020) The whole thing fits in a small backpack. It occurs top me I could easily run a VHF rig and a GPS off it as well.


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With regard to obligatory monitoring of Ch 16, Canadian Regulations (as per RIC-23) are a bit more pragmatic: "When at sea, ships voluntarily fitted with radiotelephone equipment shoudl endeavour to keep watch on the frequency 156.800 MHz (ch 16 VHF) to the greatest practicable extent"

So this would seem to forgive "turning off the radio to save batteries". But logically, the more people monitoring, the safer we are. So if a solar panel strapped to the deck will help, its worth striving for.

In Canada, one of our favorite generic outdoor gear hangouts is "Canadian Tire", and they feature some very nice flexible solar panels that I've used for several years. The 6.5 W version is on sale this week for $80 CDN (I just bought a second one, at that price).
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Product #11-1856-2

* The world's highest-efficiency thin-film solar panel
* Charges most consumer electronics through barrel connector or 12V lighter adapter
* 80% lighter and 65% smaller than our Eliminator 5W panel - folds to the size of a paperback novel
* Can generate power even while strapped to tents and backpacks
* Works even in low light conditions
* Weights only 13 oz
* Converts sunlight to continuously charge Powerbox or electronics
* Includes: 12V lighter plug (male) and 12V lighter outlet (female), carrying sleeve that attaches to PowerBox 800, barrel connector to charge PowerBox 800, battery clips and extension cord
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