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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:07 pm 
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Does anyone have one or know where to purchase them? I cannot even seem to find the North America service center. It is pretty old but not even sure how to date them. The registration sticker is from 1971.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:01 pm 
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Well, you "just" missed an Ebay auction on a nice looking one! If you buy used, make sure it has a Hypalon hull (grey or black) and not the older rubber (silver). The latter is hard to find in good condition. Most ruber hulls are reaching the end of their service life, but not all. Some, which were kept waxed to keep out ozone have survived nicely, but these are somewhat rare.

For a new skin from Klepper USA:
http://www.klepperamerica.com/
Click on the link to the latest price list. Skin prices are on page two.

Long Haul in Colorado ( they used to be the Klepper service center) makes excellent skins:
http://www.longhaulfoldingkayaks.com/
I hear that they will also sew a new hull to your deck, if that is still good. Saves some bucks.

Wayland in Poland also make reasonably priced replacement skins, sold here in the USA:
http://www.waylandkayaks.com/wp-content ... s-2013.pdf

Best of luck!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:29 am 
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It would behoove to avoid Wayland at this point. They are not shipping items customers have paid for. Look through this forum. Unfortunately the threads really ripping Wayland have been deleted

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:40 pm 
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Hm, that sounds serious about Wayland.
It is generally best to buy items from someone who has them stock. Failing that, deal with a more or less local maker. For a new skin, that would be Long Haul in Colorado. Avoids the shipping logistics from Europe as well.
Does anyone else make new skins here in the US?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:18 pm 
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ChrisO wrote:
Hm, that sounds serious about Wayland.
It is generally best to buy items from someone who has them stock. Failing that, deal with a more or less local maker. For a new skin, that would be Long Haul in Colorado. Avoids the shipping logistics from Europe as well.
Does anyone else make new skins here in the US?

Chris


Lots of people make their own kayaks an skins

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:09 am 
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Wow they are not cheap at all. Much more than I want to shell out. Anyone interested in this boat for a good deal? Almost built now and will send pics. Have to figure the sail part next


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:45 pm 
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Mike,

No, new skins are indeed not cheap. All are really hand made. There just is not the market to import them by the container from China etc.
And yes, making your own is a valid option, though I would not really go the route of the fun loving German guy in the attached photo... I believe those are four rolls of Seran wrap, on a Klepper T67 no less! Sorry, I just could not resist, :wink:
What is the condition of your Kleppers present skin? If you still have it , that is.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:34 pm 
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New skins are not cheap, but look at how long with a little care and maintenance it will last, 20 years and probably more. In that contex is a new skin really expensive.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:27 pm 
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I do have the skin still but unfortunately there are some decent size holes in it from mice as well as some pretty dry spots. Maybe could be fixed.. I will attach pics.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:29 am 
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there are some holes as well as dried up areas. The holes are about size of a quarter dollar and from mice.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:41 pm 
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I just fixed up an old Aerius I skin (1968) and I'm pleased with the results so far. There were no holes in the rubberized portion of the hull and only one small one in the deck.

I used 60 mil EPDM roofing fabric I bought from a local building supply place. I prepared the surface with acetone and 60 grit sandpaper, used a primer specifically made for the EPDM, and a bonding adhesive. So far it seems to be holding up well. The materials, 2' by 20' EPDM, primer, adhesive, and lap sealant were about $90 I think.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:15 pm 
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Want to work something out to fix mine? What state are you in?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:57 am 
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Sorry, but I couldn't do that. I'm in VA. It wasn't too difficult. You could probably do it yourself; but it's not the kind of thing it would be worth paying someone to do. With the preparation work and cost of materials, you'd be better off to get a new hull. I did it as a sort of experiment because I bought this old boat and wanted to use it before my new hull came. I ordered a new hull from Long Haul when they were having a special, $950, but it will take 8 weeks to arrive.

Good luck with your boat, either selling or fixing.

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