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 Post subject: Weather cocking
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:25 pm 
Brotherhood of the Golden Paddle

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Location: South Salem, NY
I've been having some trouble with my T9 and weather cocking. I just couldn't understand the dynamics of what was happening, it didn't make sense. The bow catches more wind than the stern but instead of blowing downwind the bow turned upwind. What the...? I just took a little look on the web and found this very clear and concise article:

http://superiorpaddling.com/kayak-weathercocking/

BTW and related to this... I love my Greenland paddle.

d

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 Post subject: Re: Weather cocking
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:10 pm 
faltbootemeister

Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:48 pm
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Location: Wisconsin, USA
Good explanation but why was your bow being pushed away from the wind? I had the same issue the other day sailing on a close haul port tack. It seemed the bow wanted to go away from the wind but on a starboard tack it was not an issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Weather cocking
PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:43 pm 
Brotherhood of the Golden Paddle

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I wrote that wrong Frank, I'll correct it now. The bow went upwind... which I still think is crazy... Hey that same site has a nice little write-up on the Painted Cliffs or whatever it's called. Check it out.

That port tac may have been a situation where you could have angled the lee board forward a bit to keep her from falling off.

d

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 Post subject: Re: Weather cocking
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:19 am 
faltbootemeister

Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:48 pm
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Thanks Dennis. We are going out on Fathers Day after the grand kids go home at noon. I hope we get some wind. We will try several things that have been suggested here. I do wish I could get the rudder to make us turn into the wind on a tack faster. There are so many things to learn. Eventually I hope they all become second nature. I am impressed with how little you have to know to sail with the KS.

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 Post subject: Re: Weather cocking
PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:11 pm 
Brotherhood of the Golden Paddle

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Yeah, the KS is a real joy to use. Try that back and forth peddle thing I recommended in one of the other threads. It works. Just practice the turns by trying it different ways. I'm hoping you figure it out so you can tell me. Ha. I'm guessing the two person payload in your boat isn't a big help either.

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 Post subject: Re: Weather cocking
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:13 pm 
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Weight shifting can make a big difference. A small amount of ballast in the bow or stern can make a huge difference. My own experience is that boats that once seemed prone to weathercocking became very easy to handle as my paddling skills developed.

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