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 Post subject: Packing
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:25 am 
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I´m used to a Prijon Seayak wich has very large hatches, so packing has never been a problam. But now when I´m moving towards foldingkayaks I can se I need some tips.

How do you pack a foldingkayak! What do you place inside and what do you place on deck?


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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:21 am 
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Small dry bags. tent poles toward the ends with boat bags. Heavy stuff toward the middle, sanshin behind the seat. Deck: pump, spare paddle, paddle float, water compass and snacks.

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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:18 pm 
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2x on the small dry bags for a single folder. They are much easier to work through hatches and around ribs. I pack mine pretty much the same way as tsunamichuck, sans sanshin.

Double folders are much easier in this regard.


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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:21 am 
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Alright, not much different from packing a Seayak, then. Part from the fact that I can put two big bags i each hatch and then put smaller bags around them.
I often see packing on deck on foldingkayaks, which I don´t need with the Seayak. But those bags should only contain lighter stuff like clothes, am I right?


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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:44 am 
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bulky stuff on deck can impede re entering after capsize

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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:15 am 
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Chuck,

Yours is without doubt the best short overview of how to pack I have ever seen. Well done.

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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:22 pm 
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Like any other kayak- keep the heavy items low, and don't put anything on the deck except rescue items and things you need to keep at hand.

Mark at Long Haul sells a hooked stick for grabbing dry bags tucked away in the bow and stern and for pushing them in there. Handier than you might think.

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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:40 am 
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A hooked stick makes sense. Thanks for that information.


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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:23 pm 
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bstevenson wrote:
Chuck,

Yours is without doubt the best short overview of how to pack I have ever seen. Well done.

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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:45 am 
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tsunamichuck wrote:
Small dry bags. tent poles toward the ends with boat bags. Heavy stuff toward the middle, sanshin behind the seat. Deck: pump, spare paddle, paddle float, water compass and snacks.

I give up, what is a sanshin? or shouldn't I ask..
Excuse my ignorance, please.


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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:45 pm 
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mje wrote:
Like any other kayak- keep the heavy items low, and don't put anything on the deck except rescue items and things you need to keep at hand.

Mark at Long Haul sells a hooked stick for grabbing dry bags tucked away in the bow and stern and for pushing them in there. Handier than you might think.


You could simply tie a piece of string to the handle of each of the dry bags, tent bags, etc and push the bags right inside the boat with a paddle.

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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:44 pm 
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I'll throw my $ 0.02, based on our experience with our folder.

We pack quite a bit when we go on a multi-day trip. Kitchen sink too...

Heavy on the bottom, lighter on the deck. Fresh water (60 litres), beer, wine, red bull (additional 5-6 litres), stove, fuel, poles, stakes, repair kits, parts, tools, tent, rechargeable batt and solar panel, food for 12-14 days, folding chairs, tarp/bug shelter, ropes, down below.

Clothing, sleeping bags, mattresses, emergency kit, snacks, electronics (navigation, communication, signaling, video cameras), defense, ditch bag, water, bottom anchor, drift anchor, throw line, on the deck.

Safe navigation and avoiding capsizing is part of the task at hand on a multi day trip. If we'll ever capsize our tandem folder that will mean very rough seas/surf and a re-entry will be a bit more complicated than all the suggested techniques... Everything on deck is tethered, waterproof and buyoant, which means most probably will stay with us after capsizing. A decent deck bag can become a reliable paddle float, or just something to step on during a re-entry... But we'll do our best to avoid capsizing while enjoying the benefits of the gear we need.

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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:16 am 
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All my equipment and supplies go into a rucksack, you could call it a back pack, except for water which is also used as ballast, i might take a two burner stove but usually a single burner which will fit into one of the pockets in the pack is sufficent.


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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:48 am 
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I find the TRAK flotation bags very useful for packing. Just pack in whatever way you want (generally heavier items nearer cockpit) and shove the whole float bag into the frame. Might need a bit of shoving and wriggling to get the whole float bag in place, but it makes emptying and packing the kayak really quick and easy. Extra level of waterproofing too.


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 Post subject: Re: Packing
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:18 am 
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kiwisailor wrote:
tsunamichuck wrote:
Small dry bags. tent poles toward the ends with boat bags. Heavy stuff toward the middle, sanshin behind the seat. Deck: pump, spare paddle, paddle float, water compass and snacks.

I give up, what is a sanshin? or shouldn't I ask..
Excuse my ignorance, please.


Sorry I missed this. It is a 3 string Okinawan Banjo

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