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Author:  Horace [ Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  help identifying this klepper-like

hi I bought this double seater and i wonder about age andmaker. only the spray skirts have a Klepper tag. please notice the snap click detail. another mistery ahead is the sail rigging, all wood parts, i know nothing about sails i see no place in the bow to tie the jib. will post photos of sail rigging later

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmbah9E4

hope someone can help me...

Author:  john allsop [ Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help identifying this klepper-like

The frame looks very much like a klepper and I would have said it was one. Until I saw the close up of some fittings, now I am not sure. Is the coaming in three pieces as early klepper were, later the coaming is a one piece affair with what seem flimsy hinges joining the rear pieces. The skin could have been a replacement and whoever made it didn,t put the sail attachment at the bow. (On a second look I think there are two pieces between the deck chair and the boat that look like the rear pieces of the coaming so it could be a 1960ish klepper frame)

Author:  Horace [ Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: help identifying this klepper-like

The coaming is 3 pieces. I took more pics: https://flickr.com/photos/138929300@N06 ... 8164162012

The other fittings for the coaling are kind of strange too . Once I take Flickr I will publish pics of sails rigging which is absolute mystery

Author:  john allsop [ Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: help identifying this klepper-like

I am sure it is a klepper frame with some repairs made by someone. The nose piece with the lightening holes is exactly like my 1960? not sure of the year klepper. The stern piece with the round holes is a home made replacement part. The three piece coaming is also the same as my old one The metal clamping part also looks home made and perhaps a little crude or should I say not up to kleppers of the period. So I will say it,s a klepper frame with some home made repairs. The photos of the skin make it look many years younger than the frame. I hope someone else will look and say what they think.

Author:  Horace [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  sail rig, help!

any Idea how this works? The hull has absolutely nothing to fasten stays to.


https://flic.kr/s/aHsksZFih9

Author:  john allsop [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: help identifying this klepper-like

The piece that goes across the round posts is the cross piece that clamps onto the coaming there should be slots in it where the J bolts go, on each end is the lee boards. Underneath is what looks like the old wood mast, if it is square at one end then it is the mast, I would advise getting a metal one. The rods with what look like sort of golf sticks, I have never seen these before. So I need to try and find out. Sorry I have not been able to as yet see your message. I get the impression this is a klepper frame from the early 60s. A very interesting site is www.faltbootbasteln.de , the text is in German but it is well worth looking at to see lots of early folders and some not so early. One section on it is faltboot unter segeln and in one of the pic there it shows lee boards like yours.

Author:  idc [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help identifying this klepper-like

Are the 'golf sticks' the gaff of a gaff rig?

Author:  john allsop [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: help identifying this klepper-like

I thought these Sticks with the odd fitting on the end might be for the gaff rigging but as there are two I didn,t try to guess. I am sure someone particularly in Germany can tell us. I have seen the rods that I am calling golf or hockey sticks before, somewhere but I can,t remember where. Horace ,still thinking if this frame is a klepper or one of the many look alikes, does the skin have sponsons, also are there any attachment rings for the mast shrouds to attach to, if not these are pretty easy to fix although a few people make sail outfits that don,t have shrouds so their main sail can be furled around the mast.

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