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 Post subject: New Pouch Model - KE-07
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:52 pm 
Here's a small aluminum frame Pouch single - words in German, and some pictures: http://www.poucher-boote.de/index.php?id=105


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:14 am 
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Looks like an attempt to take on Puffin... for twice the price. But perhaps there are reasons for that. In any case, it looks like an impressive effort, at first blush. I hope someone gets a chance to paddle one, one of these days.

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'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
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Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:54 am 
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This hook and peg arrangement reminds me of the way the ribs were secured to the upper longerons on the 1967 Folbot I had for awhile. Over time the longerons had become somewhat deformed or bent, and it was no longer possible to hook all of the metal pegs into place. Dunno, could be I am wrong and the pictured method is foolproof and makes for a fast assembly.

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Another of the things that irked about that Folbot was the longeron slider used to connect the longerons at the boat's center to one another. Those in the boat I had contained the accumulated grit of 30+ years and offered resistance when called upon to perform the task for which they'd been designed. I think Folbot still uses them, which was one reason I never did buy a Greenland II when I could finally afford one, opting instead for the wood-framed Pouch RZ96. The end pictured above appears to have been cut at an angle which probably makes mating the ends easier.

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To me, it looks more like an attempt to compete with the smaller aluminum frame Nautiraids, or even a Folbot Aleut or Yukon, as it appears to assemble traditionally by halves in the skin. Yes, probably it is meant to compete with the Pakboats kayaks in the area of intended use - stable, easy to assemble lightweight one-bag day-boat. It does seem pretty expensive, but, as you said, there are probably reasons for that.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:53 pm 
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12KG is puffin-territory... way, way under the others.

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'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
Non-folding: '84 Hobie 16; early '90s Old Town Canoe.
Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:53 pm 
I see, weight as opposed to "type" of boat.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:33 am 
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Your point is valid. Excepting weight, it is more similar to the Klepper and Nautiraid alu-minis. So hopefully, now, everyone will have to follow suit towards significantly lighter boats.

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~'91 Klepper A2 w/ BSD schooner rig.
'64 Klepper Passat/Tradewind and T12 restoration projects.
Non-folding: '84 Hobie 16; early '90s Old Town Canoe.
Previously owned '04 Pakboat Puffin II and '05 Swift.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:39 pm 
Christov_Tenn wrote:
... To me, it looks more like an attempt to compete with the smaller aluminum frame Nautiraids, or even a Folbot Aleut or Yukon, as it appears to assemble traditionally by halves in the skin. Yes, probably it is meant to compete with the Pakboats kayaks in the area of intended use - stable, easy to assemble lightweight one-bag day-boat. It does seem pretty expensive, but, as you said, there are probably reasons for that.


Rather than start a new thread I thought I would bump this one back into use.

Has anyone got first hand experience of the KE-07?
Has it proved to be a quick and handy mini ?
Can anyone point to some "pluses" that it has relative to the other aluminium frame folders?


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