Hull Assessment Please

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DebbieE

Hull Assessment Please

Post by DebbieE »

It seems I can only add 3 images at a time. There are several patches that have fallen off and the grommets are stitched but do not have any metal. Is this enough information to determine the condition of this hull? This is an Aerius, I think it is from the 80s.

Your thoughts?
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Here are 3 more images of the likely 80s Aeries.
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Hello! First impressions: the canvas deck looks as though it's seen very little sun or weather. Deep blue, like new. The hull is rougher. Probably a victim of being stored a long time in less than ideal conditions. It looks repairable with keel strips. Messing about with glues and strips of rubber can be messy and is labour intensive. Some people love nothing more, others....unnh. If the canvas deck is pristine, you might consider having Wayland or Longhaul make a replacement hull only and sew the canvas deck to it. I understand it's considerably less expensive than ordering a complete hull/deck replacement. I've mucked about a little with cheapo repairs to ageing hulls, and I must say I'm less and less enthusiastic about the process. If, however, you're a do-it-yourselfer, you've probably got a good project ahead of you.

DebbieE

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it seems like a bigger project than I'm able to take on, I will certainly look into your suggestion, thanks.

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After extensive research I concluded my 2-seat Klepper was too big and heavy for me to handle. A Klepperite who stated he only wanted to see the sail came by and offered to assemble it. He tweaked the stubborn snap-locks of rib #7 into submission and as he worked I could see the bonds of klepperitis forming. He muttered a few times, "I really just wanted to see the sail" and "my wife will kill me if I come home with another boat". We paddled around Back Bay for a while and it didn't leak anywhere, it was fast sleek and beautiful. Andy tried to find faults to justify why he shouldn't take it home and he left.

Two days later he returned with his boat trailer.
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Very nice looking kayak and sail.
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Very nice indeed, and that's an interesting sail rig... do you know anything about where the sail came from? It looks a little different from the standard Klepper Gunther rig.

Any more pictures?

Is 'Andy' a forum member here?

Thanks,

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Andy commented on the unique sail and seemed to really like it. I'll ask if he's a forum member.
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I bought the boat from Debbie. Although I follow the forum, I am not a regular contributor. I had to create a new account to comment here.

The sail is interesting. As you can see in Debbie's pictures it a gaff rig. I haven't yet measured it, but I suspect that it's smaller than the current gunter. The leeboards appear to be the same as the current ones, but it's missing a gunnel clip. The rig seems to be well proportioned to the size of the boat. The jib tack is off the deck high enough to see under it, I believe. We'll see, I have actually sailed it yet.
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I bought the boat from Debbie.

I'm not a regular on this forum, but I do follow it from time to time. I've owned a Klepper Aerius II Expedition for nineteen years. That's been a great boat for me and my family!
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That's a very neat gaff rig. Never seen it before. Cool. Thanks for the extra pics.

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DLee wrote:That's a very neat gaff rig. Never seen it before. Cool. Thanks for the extra pics.

d

Looks like a "Pouch" sail rig I saw when browsing Wayland the other day:
It also looks very similar to the Pionier Sail rig of the 1960's Pionier 520 ZI am rehabbing:

http://www.waylandkayaks.co.uk/folding_ ... ayaks.html
(Scroll down to see sail rig)
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Hello Jon,

I too have a 520-Z with a sail kit, but it's missing the cross member for the lee boards. If you have a moment I'd appreciate it if you'd post some pictures of that piece, with something for scale, so I can make a replacement. I'd really be interested in seeing how it attaches to the boat.

Thank you in advance,

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Hi Barry,
Mine is too. Here is a pic from Patcool http://www.patcool.de/faltbootsegel-und ... -3223.html
They have alot of parts for Pionier.
I made one from a 1x3" ash board. I will get a pic of it tomorrow.
Have you been out sailing yours?
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Post by BarryM »

Thanks Jon, that's excellent! I'll write more later, but I've only had mine out several times to paddle. Really nice and much different from my Aerius 2.

Cheers,

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